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	~~== Biased statements presented as fact. ==~~

	~~On the subject of "Minor Setbacks and the Mosque". There are parts of the text that needs to be modified as it uses unsupported adjectives.~~

	~~"The traitorous mayors" -> The secedding mayors~~

	~~"Tuapse was renamed to the gibberish "Suayp" -> Tuapse was renamed to "Suayp"~~

	~~"The backwater territory of Tuapse" -> The territory of tuapse~~

	~~"to the Circassian trial chamber, leadership anticipated" -> to the Circassian trial chamber, Circassian leadership anticipated~~

	~~" the traumatized mayor was observed wandering his territory completely empty-handed" -> The mayor of ____ was observed (by who??) wandering his territory completely empty-handed.~~

	~~"The traitorous mayor of the secessionist town of Suayp (formerly Tuapse) found himself ruling over an undeveloped, poorly shaped territory with only a single resident." ->~~
	~~"The mayor of the seccionist town of Suayp .... ruling in a single resident town"~~

	~~"retort using a Latin phrase he had likely gleaned from pop culture or Wikipedia" -> Without proof this is just smearing.~~

	~~" Later, in an attempt to mark his territory or inflict harm," How is this known?~~

	~~Furthermore if this part exists. Then it is also appropriate to accomodate for the opponents view of the incident so as to present both sides description of what happened.~~



	~~== The following text should be integrated to present the other sides opinion ==~~
	~~'''This is from the mayor of the town, as he saw the events to occur. These statements should be integrated into the page'''~~
	We were talking on voice chat while Sochi was being acquired from its former owners, and I was the one pressuring him to continue the negotiations; he was okay with a 1,000 gold as well. However, he only covered the cost of half the village, which was purchased for 850 (even though he’d just lost 400 gold to scammers at the time); I paid the remaining half out of my own pocket.
	I stayed under the Iberia umbrella because it’s a nation with a relatively older player base, and I get along well with them. Otherwise, if I’d wanted to, I could have burned down the town—which was 80 percent made of wood—and left. Instead, I simply collected the goods I’d stored in that village and left; I didn’t even empty the warehouse where I’d stockpiled logs, thinking they might use them to build a mosque.
	I created the town’s name by combining the words for “water” and “division” in Turkic languages, inspired by the fork in the river in the Tuapse region—yes, but calling it “gibberish” like that is a derogatory and vulgar expression.
	Calling me an “occupier” for a place I bought with my own money is also ridiculous; however, what’s even more ridiculous is that the reason the village mentioned in the “trap” story was founded was because I discovered a trial chamber while mining in that area, and it was established as a result of my pressure; half of the claims filed there were staked using the gold I provided, and yet this contradiction isn’t even mentioned. From a value-added perspective, as they themselves say, the town—which is “barren land”—was acquired with the money provided, whereas a village containing a trial chamber—and thus possessing added value—was discovered and expanded thanks to me. These two things cannot be equated.
	That trap story is a lie, by the way; I saw that hole and the lapis, and since my trust list was still active back then, I even placed a torch on top of the lapis as a warning so people wouldn’t fall and die. The reason I was wandering around empty-handed was to show that I was peaceful while talking to the other members of the Circassian group (just like the logic behind a handshake)
	As for the wall that was torn down and the dirt I placed there, I don’t know why they built that wall with such a jagged design; I just put dirt on the wall to tell my former friend, “This is the treatment you deserve now,” and in return, they made a pig’s head out of me. I also looked up that Latin phrase—I’m not saying it was directed at myself; it was a phrase thrown out there, just like he did. The whole “leaving immediately” thing is a distortion—it was already between midnight and 1 a.m., and I had to go to my classes at the university the next day, so what actually happened was that I gave my response to the message written to me and then logged out of the game. I admit the flag issue was a bit wrong, but I did it as retaliation for his behavior, which had caused me to end our friendship in real life. I know this doesn’t justify what I did in this context, but I wanted to explain how the events unfolded.
	By the way, I just remembered—the messages in the picture were written on a sign inside the wall I posted, The sign he placed inside the wall he built toward my border read, “Those who do not uphold tradition [xabze],” and the sign he placed afterward read, “Only dogs and pigs cover their surroundings in filth.” It’s clear that he insulted first my people (who currently live within that community) and then me personally. The gold and netherite in the background are also proof that the wall belongs to them.
	Finally, I placed the forest fruit bushes solely to mark the boundary—there’s nothing to make a big deal out of; the same bushes are also present within my wilderness boundaries, and they provide free food.
	As you can see, there’s a tone of belittlement and an intent to create material for mockery in everything. If they hadn’t come and built a wall along the border—and if they hadn’t insinuated that I and my people are uncivilized—I would have gone on with my life without putting anything along that border.
	One last thing: the reason my village and my friend’s village are relatively more neglected is because we were instructed to direct all labor and investment toward the capital, and I handled a significant portion of that village’s terraforming and logistics myself. Although it may seem like a small task, there are artificial tree shapes generated by the server, and these are trees with upper branches that cannot be cut down using the game’s “tree feller” feature. Much of the developed terrain consisted of these clouds of leaves and logs; I cut them down one by one by riding my ghast, which they didn’t have. To be honest, I handled it as gently as possible, yet what’s been written about me speaks for itself. Frankly, I didn’t expect this much humiliation and abuse.

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2026-10-10T22:04:14Z

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	Furthermore if this part exists. Then it is also appropriate to accomodate for the opponents view of the incident so as to present both sides description of what happened.		Furthermore if this part exists. Then it is also appropriate to accomodate for the opponents view of the incident so as to present both sides description of what happened.



			== The following text should be integrated to present the other sides opinion ==
			'''This is from the mayor of the town, as he saw the events to occur. These statements should be integrated into the page'''
			We were talking on voice chat while Sochi was being acquired from its former owners, and I was the one pressuring him to continue the negotiations; he was okay with a 1,000 gold as well. However, he only covered the cost of half the village, which was purchased for 850 (even though he’d just lost 400 gold to scammers at the time); I paid the remaining half out of my own pocket.
			I stayed under the Iberia umbrella because it’s a nation with a relatively older player base, and I get along well with them. Otherwise, if I’d wanted to, I could have burned down the town—which was 80 percent made of wood—and left. Instead, I simply collected the goods I’d stored in that village and left; I didn’t even empty the warehouse where I’d stockpiled logs, thinking they might use them to build a mosque.
			I created the town’s name by combining the words for “water” and “division” in Turkic languages, inspired by the fork in the river in the Tuapse region—yes, but calling it “gibberish” like that is a derogatory and vulgar expression.
			Calling me an “occupier” for a place I bought with my own money is also ridiculous; however, what’s even more ridiculous is that the reason the village mentioned in the “trap” story was founded was because I discovered a trial chamber while mining in that area, and it was established as a result of my pressure; half of the claims filed there were staked using the gold I provided, and yet this contradiction isn’t even mentioned. From a value-added perspective, as they themselves say, the town—which is “barren land”—was acquired with the money provided, whereas a village containing a trial chamber—and thus possessing added value—was discovered and expanded thanks to me. These two things cannot be equated.
			That trap story is a lie, by the way; I saw that hole and the lapis, and since my trust list was still active back then, I even placed a torch on top of the lapis as a warning so people wouldn’t fall and die. The reason I was wandering around empty-handed was to show that I was peaceful while talking to the other members of the Circassian group (just like the logic behind a handshake)
			As for the wall that was torn down and the dirt I placed there, I don’t know why they built that wall with such a jagged design; I just put dirt on the wall to tell my former friend, “This is the treatment you deserve now,” and in return, they made a pig’s head out of me. I also looked up that Latin phrase—I’m not saying it was directed at myself; it was a phrase thrown out there, just like he did. The whole “leaving immediately” thing is a distortion—it was already between midnight and 1 a.m., and I had to go to my classes at the university the next day, so what actually happened was that I gave my response to the message written to me and then logged out of the game. I admit the flag issue was a bit wrong, but I did it as retaliation for his behavior, which had caused me to end our friendship in real life. I know this doesn’t justify what I did in this context, but I wanted to explain how the events unfolded.
			By the way, I just remembered—the messages in the picture were written on a sign inside the wall I posted, The sign he placed inside the wall he built toward my border read, “Those who do not uphold tradition [xabze],” and the sign he placed afterward read, “Only dogs and pigs cover their surroundings in filth.” It’s clear that he insulted first my people (who currently live within that community) and then me personally. The gold and netherite in the background are also proof that the wall belongs to them.
			Finally, I placed the forest fruit bushes solely to mark the boundary—there’s nothing to make a big deal out of; the same bushes are also present within my wilderness boundaries, and they provide free food.
			As you can see, there’s a tone of belittlement and an intent to create material for mockery in everything. If they hadn’t come and built a wall along the border—and if they hadn’t insinuated that I and my people are uncivilized—I would have gone on with my life without putting anything along that border.
			One last thing: the reason my village and my friend’s village are relatively more neglected is because we were instructed to direct all labor and investment toward the capital, and I handled a significant portion of that village’s terraforming and logistics myself. Although it may seem like a small task, there are artificial tree shapes generated by the server, and these are trees with upper branches that cannot be cut down using the game’s “tree feller” feature. Much of the developed terrain consisted of these clouds of leaves and logs; I cut them down one by one by riding my ghast, which they didn’t have. To be honest, I handled it as gently as possible, yet what’s been written about me speaks for itself. Frankly, I didn’t expect this much humiliation and abuse.

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2026-10-10T22:01:39Z

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	" Later, in an attempt to mark his territory or inflict harm," How is this known?		" Later, in an attempt to mark his territory or inflict harm," How is this known?

			Furthermore if this part exists. Then it is also appropriate to accomodate for the opponents view of the incident so as to present both sides description of what happened.

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2026-10-10T21:58:41Z

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== Biased statements presented as fact. ==

On the subject of "Minor Setbacks and the Mosque". There are parts of the text that needs to be modified as it uses unsupported adjectives.

"The traitorous mayors" -> The secedding mayors

"Tuapse was renamed to the gibberish "Suayp" -> Tuapse was renamed to "Suayp"

"The backwater territory of Tuapse" -> The territory of tuapse

"to the Circassian trial chamber, leadership anticipated" -> to the Circassian trial chamber, Circassian leadership anticipated

" the traumatized mayor was observed wandering his territory completely empty-handed" -> The mayor of ____ was observed (by who??) wandering his territory completely empty-handed.

"The traitorous mayor of the secessionist town of Suayp (formerly Tuapse) found himself ruling over an undeveloped, poorly shaped territory with only a single resident." ->
"The mayor of the seccionist town of Suayp .... ruling in a single resident town"

"retort using a Latin phrase he had likely gleaned from pop culture or Wikipedia" -> Without proof this is just smearing.

" Later, in an attempt to mark his territory or inflict harm," How is this known?