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==War in Northern China/北中国的战争== | ==War in Northern China/北中国的战争== | ||
{{War|title1 = Manchuria [Qing] -Liao war|image1 = 2019-05-19 16.55.10.png|caption1 = Manchurian soldiers and foreign volunteers mustering before an attack, Hyesan, Manchuria|cause_of_war = Liao harassment of Manchurian towns, Manchurian harassment of Liao towns, constant raids and counter-raids, ideological differences|sides = Coalition, Liao|participants = —Coalition forces— | {{War|title1 = Manchuria [Qing] -Liao war | ||
{{Eras|Flooding}}|image1 = 2019-05-19 16.55.10.png|caption1 = Manchurian soldiers and foreign volunteers mustering before an attack, Hyesan, Manchuria|cause_of_war = Liao harassment of Manchurian towns, Manchurian harassment of Liao towns, constant raids and counter-raids, ideological differences|sides = Coalition, Liao|participants = —Coalition forces— | |||
Manchuria | Manchuria | ||
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但值得注意的是：中国的服务器不允许被掠夺。而所谓合法采取的人袭击了牡丹江，甚至用tnt炸毁了墙壁。 那是攻击，而不是误解。 | 但值得注意的是：中国的服务器不允许被掠夺。而所谓合法采取的人袭击了牡丹江，甚至用tnt炸毁了墙壁。 那是攻击，而不是误解。 | ||
Controversy has also arisen regarding Manchuria's name and national symbols, with argument arising over the ambiguous interpretations of its name. Some Liao members have highlighted its connotations to the time of Japanese occupied Manchuria and the Manchukuo, though the term 'Manchuria' when used in western spheres more often denotes the geographical region, rather than the political entity. Manchuria is also known to use symbolism referencing the 16th century Manchu founded Qing dynasty, further distancing it from Japanese imperialist undertones. | Controversy has also arisen regarding Manchuria's name and national symbols, with argument arising over the ambiguous interpretations of its name. Some Liao members have highlighted its connotations to the time of Japanese occupied Manchuria and the Manchukuo, though the term 'Manchuria' when used in western spheres more often denotes the geographical region, rather than the political entity. Manchuria (in game) is also known to use symbolism referencing the 16th century Manchu founded Qing dynasty, further distancing it from Japanese imperialist undertones. | ||
Manchuria was recently renamed to Qing, in reference to the historical dynasty. | Manchuria was recently renamed to Qing, in reference to the historical dynasty. This has finally removed all negative associations with the Manchukuo and Japanese occupation. | ||
（ but This is just an excuse. Manchuria was not a geographical concept at the beginning, but the name of a nationality，Manchu established HouJin in 16th century，Later renamed Qing） | （ but This is just an excuse. Manchuria was not a geographical concept at the beginning, but the name of a nationality，Manchu established HouJin in 16th century，Later renamed Qing） | ||
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Certain (一些) Liao members have also been known to have exhibited rampant toxicity and open racism towards non-Chinese players in the China area, and towards the server as a whole. This has prompted widespread global anti-Liao sentiment, compounded by existing anti-Chinese inclinations caused by their arrival in large numbers to the server. This resulted in escalation of violence in the area, such as skirmishes in early May, and finally, to open war. Large scale engagements began on May 19, 2019 with the two battles of Songyuan and in Mudanjiang. | Certain (一些) Liao members have also been known to have exhibited rampant toxicity and open racism towards non-Chinese players in the China area, and towards the server as a whole. This has prompted widespread global anti-Liao sentiment, compounded by existing anti-Chinese inclinations caused by their arrival in large numbers to the server. This resulted in escalation of violence in the area, such as skirmishes in early May, and finally, to open war. Large scale engagements began on May 19, 2019 with the two battles of Songyuan and in Mudanjiang. | ||
Liao was under the impression at the time that the dissatisfaction of other countries towards Liao were Misled by Manchuria King | |||
As of 22/05/2019, hostilities have been ceased following the signing of the Peace of Mudanjiang and the demarcation of the Chumikan-Qinhuangdao line border between the two nations. | |||
众所周知（？），某些辽成员对中国地区的非国人以及整个服务器都表现出十分强烈的憎恨和公开的种族歧视。 这引起了广泛的全球反辽情绪，加上他们大量涌入服务器引起的现有反华倾向。 这导致该地区的暴力升级，例如5月初的小规模冲突，最后是开战。 2019年5月19日，松原和牡丹江的两场战役开始了大规模的交战。 | 众所周知（？），某些辽成员对中国地区的非国人以及整个服务器都表现出十分强烈的憎恨和公开的种族歧视。 这引起了广泛的全球反辽情绪，加上他们大量涌入服务器引起的现有反华倾向。 这导致该地区的暴力升级，例如5月初的小规模冲突，最后是开战。 2019年5月19日，松原和牡丹江的两场战役开始了大规模的交战。 | ||
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On 18.5. 2019, A Coalition-led raiding party went towards the Liao capital of Mudanjiang in hopes of finding enemy troops outside the walls, in an organized response to raids and verbal harassment by Liao directed Manchurian citizens. The raiding party was met with a large concentration of Liao forces who attacked them through a gate that was located inside the moat of the city. Despite the Liao having nearly two or even three times the amount of soldiers, the Coalition's raiding party inflicted multiple casualties on the Liao without losing any themselves. After a skirmish outside the gates, the Liao retreated back inside the castle, after which the battle turned into a snipe-off between the two sides, as they exchanged archer fire. After a while, the coalition troops started to run out of potions and decided to retreat from the city, ending the battle. | On 18.5. 2019, A Coalition-led raiding party went towards the Liao capital of Mudanjiang in hopes of finding enemy troops outside the walls, in an organized response to raids and verbal harassment by Liao directed Manchurian citizens. The raiding party was met with a large concentration of Liao forces who attacked them through a gate that was located inside the moat of the city. Despite the Liao having nearly two or even three times the amount of soldiers, the Coalition's raiding party inflicted multiple casualties on the Liao without losing any themselves. After a skirmish outside the gates, the Liao retreated back inside the castle, after which the battle turned into a snipe-off between the two sides, as they exchanged archer fire. After a while, the coalition troops started to run out of potions and decided to retreat from the city, ending the battle. | ||
2019.5.18，联盟（？）领导的一个袭击队伍前往牡丹江的辽都，希望在城墙外找到敌军，有组织地应对辽军指挥的对满洲公民的袭击和口头骚扰。 突袭队遇到了大量的辽军，辽军通过位于城市护城河内的大门袭击了他们。 | 2019.5.18，联盟（？）领导的一个袭击队伍前往牡丹江的辽都，希望在城墙外找到敌军，有组织地应对辽军指挥的对满洲公民的袭击和口头骚扰。 突袭队遇到了大量的辽军，辽军通过位于城市护城河内的大门袭击了他们。 辽军人数几乎是联盟士兵数量的两倍甚至三倍，辽军遭受了大量伤亡，但是联盟的突袭队伍没有损失兵力。 在大门外进行一场小冲突之后，辽撤回了城堡里面，之后战斗变成了双方之间的狙击，因为他们不斷駁火。 过了一会儿，联军用尽了药水，决定撤离城市，结束战斗。 | ||
== Siege of Songyuan/围攻松原 == | == Siege of Songyuan/围攻松原 == | ||
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attacked Songyuan. The afternoon attack was widely publicized and condemned by the international community, with many Manchurian foreign allies and independent foreign volunteers arriving to defend the town. The outside area of Songyuan was devastated with multiple Liao troops using Giga Drill Breaker and Super Breaker to create a trench to trap the besieged Manchurian troops. Multiple fortifications were propped up by both sides, most notably the creation of an industrial potion brewer to make badly needed potions. This was built by KingSolomon1118 while fighting off attacks. After a few minutes the walls were overrun and Liao troops flooded into the city where a battle begun which lead to the death of one Manchurian soldier. Within the hour, Liao forces were driven back. Liao raiders threatened to return in force, and resorted to flaming the chat with anti- Manchurian and anti- western messages, though no further attacks materialised. | attacked Songyuan. The afternoon attack was widely publicized and condemned by the international community, with many Manchurian foreign allies and independent foreign volunteers arriving to defend the town. The outside area of Songyuan was devastated with multiple Liao troops using Giga Drill Breaker and Super Breaker to create a trench to trap the besieged Manchurian troops. Multiple fortifications were propped up by both sides, most notably the creation of an industrial potion brewer to make badly needed potions. This was built by KingSolomon1118 while fighting off attacks. After a few minutes the walls were overrun and Liao troops flooded into the city where a battle begun which lead to the death of one Manchurian soldier. Within the hour, Liao forces were driven back. Liao raiders threatened to return in force, and resorted to flaming the chat with anti- Manchurian and anti- western messages, though no further attacks materialised. | ||
早些时候，满洲城镇一直受到加入辽的玩家的间歇性袭击，最值得注意的是Bommbap突然袭击了满洲小镇松原，导致市长死亡，牲畜被杀。 不久之后，辽再次出动袭击了松原。 下午的袭击被国际社会广泛宣传，并且出现了谴责声，许多满洲外国盟友和独立的外国志愿者抵达该镇。 松原的外围地区遭到多名辽军的袭击，使用Giga Drill Breaker和Super Breaker制造了一条壕沟来拦截满洲军队。 双方都支持多种防御工事，最显着的是创造了一种工业药水酿造機来制造急需的药水。 这是由KingSolomon1118建立的，同时抵御攻击。 几分钟后，墙壁被侵占，辽军队涌入城市，一场战斗开始，导致一名满洲士兵死亡。 在一小时内，辽军被赶回来了。 辽掠夺者威胁要重新攻占松原，并采取狂刷反对满洲和反西方信息，但没有进一步的攻击。 | |||
== Retaliation Attack on Mudanjiang/对牡丹江的攻击 == | == Retaliation Attack on Mudanjiang/对牡丹江的攻击 == | ||
[[File:2019-05-19 17.02.10.png|left|thumb|220x220px|Coalition forces take up positions on Mudanjiang's walls, observing the interior of the city shortly before Liao forces begin to counterattack]] | [[File:2019-05-19 17.02.10.png|left|thumb|220x220px|Coalition forces take up positions on Mudanjiang's walls, observing the interior of the city shortly before Liao forces begin to counterattack]] | ||
Following the attacks on Songyuan, Manchuria organised a counter strike on the Liao capital of Mudanjiang. Volunteers from at least 8 nations participated in the attack. After mustering in Hyesan, coalition forces marched northeast meeting no opposition. After securing the walls around Mudangjiang, Liao forces began to materialise in number, | Following the attacks on Songyuan, Manchuria organised a counter strike on the Liao capital of Mudanjiang. Volunteers from at least 8 nations participated in the attack. After mustering in Hyesan, coalition forces marched northeast meeting no opposition. After securing the walls around Mudangjiang, Liao forces began to materialise in number. The Chinese video content creator Zi__Min was spotted, and it was assumed at the time that he was leading the Liao forcess, thouh this later turned out untrue | ||
在松原袭击事件发生后，满洲组织了对辽都的反击。 来自至少8个国家的志愿者加入了这次袭击。 在Hyesan集结后，联军在东北部进行了会议，没有遭到反攻击。 在巩固了牡丹江周围的城墙后，辽军开始实现数量化（？）.但是，不是由中国著名游戏玩家Zi__Min领导的 | 在松原袭击事件发生后，满洲组织了对辽都的反击。 来自至少8个国家的志愿者加入了这次袭击。 在Hyesan集结后，联军在东北部进行了会议，没有遭到反攻击。 在巩固了牡丹江周围的城墙后，辽军开始实现数量化（？）.但是，不是由中国著名游戏玩家Zi__Min领导的 | ||
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== Violations of the Peace Treaty/违反“和平条约” == | == Violations of the Peace Treaty/违反“和平条约” == | ||
=== Liao === | |||
Despite the peace terms explicitly stating that all hostilities must be ceased, some radical Liao members have continued to attack towns in the Northeastern China region. Changchun, despite its status as a neutral town during the war, unaligned to either state, was subjected to a minor raid on 28/05. Fengtian, a Manchurian town was attacked on 29/05, violating both clauses of cessation of hostilities and respecting the national border. | Despite the peace terms explicitly stating that all hostilities must be ceased, some radical Liao members have continued to attack towns in the Northeastern China region. Changchun, despite its status as a neutral town during the war, unaligned to either state, was subjected to a minor raid on 28/05. Fengtian, a Manchurian town was attacked on 29/05, violating both clauses of cessation of hostilities and respecting the national border. | ||
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But the truth of the matter is: this member of the violation of the peace treaty is a deliberately arranged spy by other countries, Bommbap has been exiled by Liao | But the truth of the matter is: this member of the violation of the peace treaty is a deliberately arranged spy by other countries, Bommbap has been exiled by Liao | ||
=== Qing (Manchurian) === | |||
On July 4th 2019, [[Qing]] (aka Manchuria before the name change) moved its borders southward while [[Liao]]’s border was moved northward a bit on the map displayed in Fandom, which has already beyond the Chumikan-Qinhuangdao Line mentioned in the Peace Agreement made by both parties of [[Liao]] and [[Qing]]. The map maker of Qing [[PrestusHood]] claimed that they did not know the boundary of the Chumikan-Qinhuangdao line, but the border of the Chumikan-Qinhuangdao line has been mentioning in the Manchuria-Liao War entry.However, after learning about this error, Qing did not immediately modify it, so Qing was doubted whether they unilaterally tore up the peace treaty or not. | |||
The Qing map maker said it would correct the error in the next update, but he did not say when the update was | |||
[[File:Ecfdb6c52ce212b.jpg|thumb|220x220px|black line is Chumikan-Qinhuangdao line|centre]] | |||
A small statement from the [[Qing]] map maker [[PrestusHood]]: "''The error was acknowledged but i didnt made a update on the time we were informed because the map was fresh. Now that east asian region changed a lot and the map is outdated, a new version is being made with Chumikan-Qinhuangdao line frontiers. Expect it to be released between July 17 - 19."'' | |||
== Conclusion/结论 == | == Conclusion/结论 == | ||
In the month after the war, much changes have taken place in the northern china region. Manchuria moved its capital north to the city of Liaoyang (within its side of the Chumikan-Qinhuangdao line), reducing the risk of violent encounters between Liao and Manchu citizens caused by the proximity of large population centres. Manchuria renamed its nation to Qing, finally removing all ambiguities surrounding its name and its connotations to Japanese militarism and Japanese occupied China. | In the month after the war, much changes have taken place in the northern china region. Manchuria moved its capital north to the city of Liaoyang (within its side of the Chumikan-Qinhuangdao line), reducing the risk of violent encounters between Liao and Manchu citizens caused by the proximity of large population centres. Manchuria renamed its nation to Qing, finally removing all ambiguities surrounding its name and its negative connotations to Japanese militarism and Japanese occupied China. | ||
Liao has also exiled and removed the more radical players in its population (some of which have formed the Sui nation). Liao, following the conclusion of the war, has reconsidered its international policy, opening more to foreign trade and working to integrate itself into the international community, such as expressing interest in joining the Uesugi alliance and other trade organisations | Liao has also exiled and removed the more radical players in its population (some of which have formed the Sui nation). Liao, following the conclusion of the war, has reconsidered its international policy, opening more to foreign trade and working to integrate itself into the international community, such as expressing interest in joining the Uesugi alliance and other trade organisations, and becoming a member state of the United China group | ||
[[Category:Conflicts]] | [[Category:Conflicts]] | ||
[[Category:Battles]] | [[Category:Battles]] | ||