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The relations between these 2 nations have varied overtime, with them initially having good relations, especially as [[Yemen]] joined the First Nubian Empire. | The relations between these 2 nations have varied overtime, with them initially having good relations, especially as [[Yemen]] joined the First Nubian Empire. | ||
In fact, relations were so strong that [[twomoo1119]] offered Yemeni Emperor Raining_Oranges the throne of [[Nubia]], after his abdication, and after both [[gorkymoo1119]] and Konigerino denied it, despite the complex situation involving [[Mersa]] leaving for [[Yemen]] (known as Mexit) | In fact, relations were so strong that [[twomoo1119]] offered Yemeni Emperor [[Raining_Oranges]] the throne of [[Nubia]], after his abdication, and after both [[gorkymoo1119]] and Konigerino denied it, despite the complex situation involving [[Mersa]] leaving for [[Yemen]] (known as Mexit) | ||
However, relations soured after [[Nubia]] left the [[Yemen|Yemen Empire]], which eventually caused the [[Yemen-Nubia Conflict]]. Since then, relations have became mostly neutral. | However, relations soured after [[Nubia]] left the [[Yemen|Yemen Empire]], which eventually caused the [[Yemen-Nubia Conflict]]. Since then, relations have became mostly neutral. | ||
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![[File:Flag-0.png|link=https://earthmc. | ![[File:Flag-0.png|link=https://wiki.earthmc.net/wiki/File:Flag-0.png|thumb|30x30px|alt=|center]][[Nubia]] | ||
![[File:2000px-Flag of Yemen.svg.png|center|thumb|30x30px]][[Yemen]] | ![[File:2000px-Flag of Yemen.svg.png|center|thumb|30x30px]][[Yemen]] | ||
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*[[Prime Minister of Nubia|Prime Minister]] of [[Nubia]]: [[gorkymoo1119]] | *[[Prime Minister of Nubia|Prime Minister]] of [[Nubia]]: [[gorkymoo1119]] | ||
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*Emperor of [[Yemen]]: Raining_Oranges | *Emperor of [[Yemen]]: [[Raining_Oranges]] | ||
*Prime Minister of [[Yemen]]: llighty | *Prime Minister of [[Yemen]]: llighty | ||
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==== The Formation of [[Yemen]] ==== | ==== The Formation of [[Yemen]] ==== | ||
When Raining_Oranges gathered the gold to make a nation, they performed the appropriate command. This was in mid-January of 2020, and initially this was to be the start of an independent nation, away from any relation with any nations, and from being an subject of [[Nubia]]. | When [[Raining_Oranges]] gathered the gold to make a nation, they performed the appropriate command. This was in mid-January of 2020, and initially this was to be the start of an independent nation, away from any relation with any nations, and from being an subject of [[Nubia]]. | ||
=== '''Joining the First Nubian Empire''' === | === '''Joining the First Nubian Empire''' === | ||
==== Raided by Grand Australia ==== | ==== Raided by Grand Australia ==== | ||
After being raided by people from Grand Australia, [[Yemen]] enemied the nation. It was clear to Raining_Oranges that they may need help, in the form of protection specifically, from another power. | After being raided by people from Grand Australia, [[Yemen]] enemied the nation. It was clear to [[Raining_Oranges]] that they may need help, in the form of protection specifically, from another power. | ||
==== Invitation to the Empire ==== | ==== Invitation to the Empire ==== | ||
[[Twomoo1119]] heard of the news of the raid, and thought to himself how he could help. He decided one possible way may be to invite [[Yemen]] to the Empire. He discussed it amongst the higher ups of [[Nubia]] at the time, when [[Nubia]] was a monarchy. | [[Twomoo1119]] heard of the news of the raid, and thought to himself how he could help. He decided one possible way may be to invite [[Yemen]] to the Empire. He discussed it amongst the higher ups of [[Nubia]] at the time, when [[Nubia]] was a monarchy. | ||
After the inside discussion from the government of [[Nubia]], an invitation to the First Nubian Empire was sent to the Yemenis via direct messages (speculated to be on discord). The Yemenis accepted due to the recent raid, and saw [[Nubia]] as a way to get protection and ensure safety whilst they built up and started [[Yemen]] and Aden. Raining_Oranges was then ranked Nation Leader in the Nubian discord, to allow for involvement in discussions, and so the Nubian populace knew [[Yemen]] had joined. | After the inside discussion from the government of [[Nubia]], an invitation to the First Nubian Empire was sent to the Yemenis via direct messages (speculated to be on discord). The Yemenis accepted due to the recent raid, and saw [[Nubia]] as a way to get protection and ensure safety whilst they built up and started [[Yemen]] and Aden. [[Raining_Oranges]] was then ranked Nation Leader in the Nubian discord, to allow for involvement in discussions, and so the Nubian populace knew [[Yemen]] had joined. | ||
=== '''Membership in the First Nubian Empire''' === | === '''Membership in the First Nubian Empire''' === | ||
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The Yemenis quickly got quite close with many Nubians, more specifically the residents of [[St. Allison]] and [[Mersa]], especially the higher-ups. The Yemenis would participate in discussion in the Nubian discord, and often displayed their own views, as well as showing facts about the real life nation of [[Yemen]]. | The Yemenis quickly got quite close with many Nubians, more specifically the residents of [[St. Allison]] and [[Mersa]], especially the higher-ups. The Yemenis would participate in discussion in the Nubian discord, and often displayed their own views, as well as showing facts about the real life nation of [[Yemen]]. | ||
The Yemenis, however, would stay out of controversy, and had little rivalry in [[Nubia]] during their membership of the First Nubian Empire, with many Nubians liking them, especially the Yemeni leader Raining_Oranges. | The Yemenis, however, would stay out of controversy, and had little rivalry in [[Nubia]] during their membership of the First Nubian Empire, with many Nubians liking them, especially the Yemeni leader [[Raining_Oranges]]. | ||
==== Yemeni Colony Crisis ==== | ==== Yemeni Colony Crisis ==== | ||
[[Yemen]] expanded their own Empire on top of being in the First Nubian Empire, comparable to [[Nubia]] being in the [[GRE]]. Despite an Empire of [[Yemen]] already existing prior to the accepting of the invitation into the Nubian Empire, there was no agreement as to the relations of the colonies of [[Yemen]] with [[Nubia]]. | [[Yemen]] expanded their own Empire on top of being in the First Nubian Empire, comparable to [[Nubia]] being in the [[GRE]]. Despite an Empire of [[Yemen]] already existing prior to the accepting of the invitation into the Nubian Empire, there was no agreement as to the relations of the colonies of [[Yemen]] with [[Nubia]]. | ||
However, this topic was soon brought up in the Yemeni discord, by [[gorkymoo1119]] asking about the relationship of the 2 out of curiosity. The leader of the Yemeni province of Arabia, Tafffy, said they would leave the Yemeni Empire if that meant they were considered part of the First Nubian Empire. Rushing to ensure this didn't happen, Raining_Oranges spoke with [[twomoo1119]] and agreed for the relation to be that only [[Yemen]] was in the First Nubian Empire, not their colonies. | However, this topic was soon brought up in the Yemeni discord, by [[gorkymoo1119]] asking about the relationship of the 2 out of curiosity. The leader of the Yemeni province of Arabia, Tafffy, said they would leave the Yemeni Empire if that meant they were considered part of the First Nubian Empire. Rushing to ensure this didn't happen, [[Raining_Oranges]] spoke with [[twomoo1119]] and agreed for the relation to be that only [[Yemen]] was in the First Nubian Empire, not their colonies. | ||
Members of the First Nubian Empire and Yemeni Empire agreed this was a fine response, and there was little to no rivalry to this agreement. The crisis luckily only lasted about a day, without any losses on either side. However, it was in regret of a few Nubians that they didn't attempt to get a different relation with each province other then Arabia, as they seemed to be only ones opposing it. | Members of the First Nubian Empire and Yemeni Empire agreed this was a fine response, and there was little to no rivalry to this agreement. The crisis luckily only lasted about a day, without any losses on either side. However, it was in regret of a few Nubians that they didn't attempt to get a different relation with each province other then Arabia, as they seemed to be only ones opposing it. | ||
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''(This event is also known as Mexit colloquially)'' | ''(This event is also known as Mexit colloquially)'' | ||
As a result of [[gorkymoo1119]] speaking many times to Raining_Oranges, [[Mersa]] joined [[Yemen]] after being promised much needed funding. Despite this being a major loss for [[Nubia|Nubia Proper]], many Nubians saw as to why [[gorkymoo1119]] did this. There was little discussion about the event, other then questions as to the future of the relations between the two nations. | As a result of [[gorkymoo1119]] speaking many times to [[Raining_Oranges]], [[Mersa]] joined [[Yemen]] after being promised much needed funding. Despite this being a major loss for [[Nubia|Nubia Proper]], many Nubians saw as to why [[gorkymoo1119]] did this. There was little discussion about the event, other then questions as to the future of the relations between the two nations. | ||
However, [[twomoo1119]] saw this as a major loss for [[Nubia]], and, as the Mersans mostly kept to themselves despite being one of the 3 metropolises in [[Nubia]], he believed the majority of the rest of the Nubians did not know the extent of this. The reasons given by the leader of [[Mersa]] furthered the lack of trust of [[twomoo1119]] in [[Nubia]], and eventually caused the abdication of him from the office of the Emperor of [[Nubia]]. | However, [[twomoo1119]] saw this as a major loss for [[Nubia]], and, as the Mersans mostly kept to themselves despite being one of the 3 metropolises in [[Nubia]], he believed the majority of the rest of the Nubians did not know the extent of this. The reasons given by the leader of [[Mersa]] furthered the lack of trust of [[twomoo1119]] in [[Nubia]], and eventually caused the abdication of him from the office of the Emperor of [[Nubia]]. | ||
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==== [[Twomoo1119]] leaves ==== | ==== [[Twomoo1119]] leaves ==== | ||
Due to the recent loss of [[Mersa]], on top of Kalahari, [[Congo]] and Nyasa, [[twomoo1119]] chose to abdicate the throne of Emperor of [[Nubia]]. He had offered the job to Konigerino and [[gorkymoo1119]], however both declined. This left [[twomoo1119]] without an heir, however chose to approach the leader of [[Yemen]], seeing it as [[Nubia]]'s only hope. | Due to the recent loss of [[Mersa]], on top of Kalahari, [[Nova:Congo|Congo]] and Nyasa, [[twomoo1119]] chose to abdicate the throne of Emperor of [[Nubia]]. He had offered the job to Konigerino and [[gorkymoo1119]], however both declined. This left [[twomoo1119]] without an heir, however chose to approach the leader of [[Yemen]], seeing it as [[Nubia]]'s only hope. | ||
{{Image template|title1=Yemeni Nubian Territory|image1=NubiaYemen.png|caption1=Map of territory controlled by Yemeni Nubia.|image=}} | {{Image template|title1=Yemeni Nubian Territory|image1=NubiaYemen.png|caption1=Map of territory controlled by Yemeni Nubia.|image=}} | ||
==== Official entry of [[Nubia]] into [[Yemen]] ==== | ==== Official entry of [[Nubia]] into [[Yemen]] ==== | ||
After Raining_Oranges took over [[El Obeid]] a day after [[twomoo1119]]'s official abdication, __Vlad__ was installed as the nation leader of [[Nubia]] for [[Yemen]], as he was seen as trustworthy. | After [[Raining_Oranges]] took over [[El Obeid]] a day after [[twomoo1119]]'s official abdication, __Vlad__ was installed as the nation leader of [[Nubia]] for [[Yemen]], as he was seen as trustworthy. | ||
==== The souring of relations between [[Mersa]] and [[Yemen]] ==== | ==== The souring of relations between [[Mersa]] and [[Yemen]] ==== | ||
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==== [[Twomoo1119]]'s Return ==== | ==== [[Twomoo1119]]'s Return ==== | ||
Much to the shock of many, in [[Yemen]], [[Nubia]] and [[Ethiopia (May 2020)|Ethiopia]] as well as other areas of the Yemeni Empire, Raining_Oranges gave the Nubian nation to [[twomoo1119]] after a vague verbal agreement which stated he would not leave the [[Yemen|Yemen Empire]] once getting it back. | Much to the shock of many, in [[Yemen]], [[Nubia]] and [[Ethiopia (May 2020)|Ethiopia]] as well as other areas of the Yemeni Empire, [[Raining_Oranges]] gave the Nubian nation to [[twomoo1119]] after a vague verbal agreement which stated he would not leave the [[Yemen|Yemen Empire]] once getting it back. | ||
=== '''Hostilities after independence''' === | === '''Hostilities after independence''' === | ||
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In the late hours of May 22nd for most Nubians, and the early hours of May 23rd for most Yemenis, [[twomoo1119]] put out an announcement in regards to the vote, and peacefully made a withdrawal from the Yemeni Empire. | In the late hours of May 22nd for most Nubians, and the early hours of May 23rd for most Yemenis, [[twomoo1119]] put out an announcement in regards to the vote, and peacefully made a withdrawal from the Yemeni Empire. | ||
The Yemenis, however, were heavily outraged at this, and attacked [[twomoo1119]] and [[gorkymoo1119]] in direct messages about this, as they were 2 key figures in making this event happen, especially in regards to the reunification agreement. The Yemenis made references to a vague agreement about [[Nubia]] not leaving [[Yemen]] between Raining_Oranges and [[twomoo1119]]. | The Yemenis, however, were heavily outraged at this, and attacked [[twomoo1119]] and [[gorkymoo1119]] in direct messages about this, as they were 2 key figures in making this event happen, especially in regards to the reunification agreement. The Yemenis made references to a vague agreement about [[Nubia]] not leaving [[Yemen]] between [[Raining_Oranges]] and [[twomoo1119]]. | ||
=== '''Shared Hostilities to one another''' === | === '''Shared Hostilities to one another''' === | ||
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==== Peace ==== | ==== Peace ==== | ||
Whilst there was never any official treaty to solve this conflict signed, an informal conversation between the Nubian leader, [[twomoo1119]], and Yemeni leader, Raining_Oranges, ended the official hostilities due to many political activists from each nation pushing for peace. | Whilst there was never any official treaty to solve this conflict signed, an informal conversation between the Nubian leader, [[twomoo1119]], and Yemeni leader, [[Raining_Oranges]], ended the official hostilities due to many political activists from each nation pushing for peace. | ||
{{Image template|title1=Contested claims|image1=ContestedClaims.JPG|caption1=Highlighted in yellow are the contested claims in Arabia between Nubia and Yemen|image=}} | {{Image template|title1=Contested claims|image1=ContestedClaims.JPG|caption1=Highlighted in yellow are the contested claims in Arabia between Nubia and Yemen|image=}} | ||
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===== {{Big|21st September 2020}} ===== | ===== {{Big|21st September 2020}} ===== | ||
On the 21st of September 2020, Nubian Minister of Municipal Development, [[gorkymoo1119]], proposed unofficially a border to Yemeni minister of Foreign Affairs, bigscarylottie. Despite a 30 minute discussion surrounding it taking place, bigscarylottie finally found a border she was happy with, and took it to the Yemeni Emperor, Raining_Oranges, however the Emperor declined it due to its origin from [[gorkymoo1119]]. {{Image & Description template|title1=21st September 2020 Proposals|image1=<gallery> | On the 21st of September 2020, Nubian Minister of Municipal Development, [[gorkymoo1119]], proposed unofficially a border to Yemeni minister of Foreign Affairs, bigscarylottie. Despite a 30 minute discussion surrounding it taking place, bigscarylottie finally found a border she was happy with, and took it to the Yemeni Emperor, [[Raining_Oranges]], however the Emperor declined it due to its origin from [[gorkymoo1119]]. {{Image & Description template|title1=21st September 2020 Proposals|image1=<gallery> | ||
YemenBorder1.png|1st Proposal | YemenBorder1.png|1st Proposal | ||
YemenBorder2.png|2nd Proposal | YemenBorder2.png|2nd Proposal | ||
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</gallery>|caption1=|description=Red line means adjustments to borders per each proposal}} | </gallery>|caption1=|description=Red line means adjustments to borders per each proposal}} | ||
There were 3 different borders proposed, which can be seen on the image box to the right. The first border was criticised by bigscarylottie for being too close to Aden, and thus declined. The second border was more well received, however still declined by bigscarylottie as she felt it was too close still. The third was far enough to her liking, but not to the liking of Raining_Oranges. The Nubians state they will not give away any of the towns if asked to by the Yemenis, as the Yemenis have claimed the land as theirs and that the Nubian claims there as 'illegitimate', despite it being majorly controlled by the Nubians. | There were 3 different borders proposed, which can be seen on the image box to the right. The first border was criticised by bigscarylottie for being too close to Aden, and thus declined. The second border was more well received, however still declined by bigscarylottie as she felt it was too close still. The third was far enough to her liking, but not to the liking of [[Raining_Oranges]]. The Nubians state they will not give away any of the towns if asked to by the Yemenis, as the Yemenis have claimed the land as theirs and that the Nubian claims there as 'illegitimate', despite it being majorly controlled by the Nubians. | ||
=== '''Attempts to steal Nubian towns from Yemen''' === | === '''Attempts to steal Nubian towns from Yemen''' === | ||
In November and December 2020, [[Yemen]]'s Emperor, Raining_Oranges, attempted to steal towns in [[Nubian Arabia]] from [[Nubia]] after Nubia's refusal to accept [[Yemen]] as a dominion in exchange for letting them control Nubian land in Arabia. | In November and December 2020, [[Yemen]]'s Emperor, [[Raining_Oranges]], attempted to steal towns in [[Nubian Arabia]] from [[Nubia]] after Nubia's refusal to accept [[Yemen]] as a dominion in exchange for letting them control Nubian land in Arabia. | ||
Raining_Oranges would first message [[Lopile]], Mayor of Sanaa, about joining. This failed, with [[Lopile]] blocking the Yemeni Emperor. During this time, Raining_Oranges attempted to negotiate with [[gorkymoo1119]] behind [[twomoo1119]]'s back, however this failed, and word about it was ultimately taken to [[twomoo1119]]. | [[Raining_Oranges]] would first message [[Lopile]], Mayor of [[Sanaa]], about joining. This failed, with [[Lopile]] blocking the Yemeni Emperor. During this time, [[Raining_Oranges]] attempted to negotiate with [[gorkymoo1119]] behind [[twomoo1119]]'s back, however this failed, and word about it was ultimately taken to [[twomoo1119]]. | ||
== Twinned Cities == | == Twinned Cities == | ||